Is Nothing Something?

Most recent answer: 10/22/2007

Q:
Space is a vacuum. So that means it is filled with nothing. It might sound dumb but what is nothing? Could the nothing be a something?
- Draken-Korin (age 4)
A:
You can't expect a simple answer to a semi-philosophical question like this. It touches directly some very deep issues that people have argued about for a long time, and still argue about.

The 'nothing' of space means what's left when all the removable stuff (atoms, etc.) is removed. So I guess the question could be whether the un-removable part still does something. Right now, it looks like it does. The expansion of the universe looks very much like it's accelerating, the way it would if space were filled with some un-removable energy density.

Is that something? Or is it just another choice of words to describe an acceleration which could just as well be taken as an independent law of nature, without saying that 'something' in space caused it?

There's very much evidence that the acceleration from the background of energy in space was once much larger. That means that it can't always be ascribed to some fixed law, and might best be thought of as due to somethingness of space.

Of course that raises another possibility. Could there someday be another change in that background? Could there someday be truly nothing in 'empty' space? We don't know.

Mike W.

There are other good indications that the vacuum plays an active role in physical processes that can be measured. All the elementary particles we know of have zero size (that is, particles whose sizes we have been able to measure have been found to be themselves made up of constituent pieces.

For the particles with "zero" size, we can ask what the space is like nearby these little points. It turns out that this space is seething with particles and antiparticles, popping into and out of existence (in particle-antiparticle pairs) according to the laws of quantum mechanics. These particle-antiparticle pairs do have a net observable effect on the strength of the electric field around a real particle. In each pair, the particle that's oppositely charged to the real particle is pulled inwards, towards the real particle, while the other half of the pair is repelled. This effect amounts to a "screening" of the charge of the real particle. We can tell that this is going on by asking what the strength of the electric field is very close to a particle, and finding that it is in fact bigger than might be expected if the vacuum were "empty". There are other observable effects, such as on how strong the magnetic field is around a spinning particle.

These measurements lead us to believe that these particle-antiparticle pairs are constantly being produced and destroyed everywhere, including in every bit of vacuum. You cannot remove them, so by the definition above, they are part of the vacuum.

Here's another interesting consequence of this: Nothing can escape from inside the event horizon of a block hole. However, particles and antiparticles are constantly being created and destroyed, even near the event horizon of a black hole. One of the pair can fall in, leaving the other half of the pair to fly away. This phenomenon is called "Hawking radiation," after Steven Hawking, who predicted it in the 1970's. Black holes, if they just sit in space with no real matter to fall in (that is, they are surrounded only by vacuum), will gradually "evaporate" because of all the Hawking radiation escaping.

Tom

(published on 10/22/2007)

Follow-Up #1: being and nothingness

Q:
This is very funny to me because i have always asked myself the opposite to this question. Can something be nothing. Since all particles that have been measured are made up of other pieces i think that as we explore even smaller particles this trend would have to continue. Because even if a particle is found that is just a single fabric, how would that fabric exist? So i guess the two questions could be linked to get an answer, nothing can be something because everything is nothing. Does that make sense?
- Michael Bolt (age 18)
Canada
A:
I see what you're driving at, but at some point these philosophical questions start to feel like mere words bouncing around. Nature doesn't care what our answer is.

Mike W.

(published on 07/27/2009)

Follow-Up #2: dark something

Q:
could that something that's nothing be the dark matter scientists be talking about?
- Joshua (age 13)
kennesaw
A:
No, so far as we can tell dark matter is removable. It clusters in galaxies, near more familiar matter.

The "dark energy" which is also much discussed is part of what might be meant by "the something that is nothing" or some such phrase. Dark energy seems to be, at least for the time being, an unremovable property of space.

Mike W.

(published on 08/19/2010)

Follow-Up #3: nothingness

Q:
Actually, vacuum is filled up with space. 'Nothing' is exctly what was before the Big Bang....which is nothing! What's hard to understand about nothingness?
- Anonymous
A:
What does "Actually, vacuum is filled up with space" mean? Does it have any implications for anything that can be observed?

As for "before the Big Bang", many modern cosmological theories have a great deal going on before the Big Bang. For an interesting take on that, you might read Sean Carroll's "From Eternity to Here".

Mike W.

(published on 08/27/2010)

Follow-Up #4: universal nothing?

Q:
I feel when we use 'nothing' in our daily life we actually use it in a context, like nothing there, nothing in the bottle, etc. I want to ask: what is the universal meaning of nothing? I will use an inference to prove that the universal meaning of nothing cannot be understood by anyone: Nothing means no anything. So if there is nothing, there is no people. If there is no people, how can one thinks about the meaning of nothing. In other words, we cannot find an instance of a universal nothing.
- Xiaogang (age 30)
Enschede, Netherlands
A:
These philosophy arguments puzzle me. What's at stake?

Mike W.

(published on 05/23/2011)

Follow-Up #5: something in empty space?

Q:
IF there is nothing in a space then there has to be something there in order for that space to be there right so there is never nothing. i could take all the atoms out of a space but something has to be there for them to take that space, so im all that space is something right?
- Toy (age 17)
heshey PA USA
A:
This question is close to others that have been asked. I still don't really understand them. Say I answered "right, there's something in space" or "no, there's nothing in space". What would that tell you about the world? Would you expect to see anything act any different either way?

Thinking about it, I guess that saying that space "is something" (besides boosting its self-esteem) might suggest that someday a theory (string theory?) about that something might be developed. Then once the theory is developed, it could tell us something about what to expect to see.  Based on pretty much pure guess, I'd the say that space is something. Or maybe not.

Mike W.

(published on 06/20/2011)

Follow-Up #6: the nothingness of philosophy

Q:
This isn't exactly a question more of an answer than anything, but nothing is in fact something, because nothing exists even as an idea of something that is missing, or void as an not there; But even if it is only an idea, it exists, and because there was nothing before there was what we call "something" there was in fact already something there being, "nothing" And because this is how the universe works, the Red Shift Theory, means that we are expanding into "something" new, something untouched by the KNOWN universe. We always fear what we don't know anything about, but why should we fear something that is so obvious? Everything has to stop and start before something else can do the same thing, its like a never ending relay race. So i guess my question is: Can you find anything wrong with what i have just explained?
- Ray Robertson (age 15)
Rancho Cucamonga, CA, United States
A:
I can't really comment since I didn't follow what it meant.

Mike W.

(published on 08/28/2011)

Follow-Up #7: The Theory of Nothing

Q:
In theory, can we safely say that "perfect vacuum" is NOTHING since it has no particles, no forces , no gravitation assuming of course that we can isolate gravitation? thank you in advance....cheers Nikos.
- Nick (age 65)
Daly City, CA
A:

I'm not sure about the meaning of two parts of your question. What does "in theory" mean? Is that supposed to be a theory of our universe or a theory of some hypothetical mathematical construct? The question of what "in theory" means often comes up, because in science we mean some specific theory, but people often use the phrase without any particular theory in mind.

The second concerns "safely say that "perfect vacuum" is  NOTHING". You can say that without personal danger, since you aren't in North Korea, but it may be too safe to say. That is, it's not clear that there's anything anybody could see that could possibly show it's wrong, so it's not clear that it means anything.

Mike W.


(published on 11/16/2013)

Follow-Up #8: space changing in time

Q:
I'm not a physicist so please excuse my clumsy terminology. My question is: Can a fixed amount of space have any qualities that can vary over time or between two fixed amounts of space? If yes what physical proof/experiments can demonstrate this?
- Allan (age 47)
London
A:

Space obviously gets different properties if some stuff goes through it, but I think you're asking about some "empty" space. It does seem as though its properties can change. Space is currently inflating a bit, just as General Relativity would predict if space were filled with some sort of fixed energy density. It looks as if there was a brief period just after the Big Bang when space inflated very rapidly, as if it were filled with some much higher energy density. So it seems that the properties of space have changed over time.

You ask a very good question about what sort of evidence we could have for claims like this. One of the main pieces of evidence for the current weak inflation comes from the red-shift of the light of distant galaxies, which allows a sort of calibration of how the expansion of the universe has changed over time. Another piece of evidence about the same history comes from how stretched out the tiny ripples in the Cosmic Microwave Background are. The form of the ripples also gives evidence about the suspected early fast inflation. Details from the Planck satellite recently gave support to the idea of early fast inflation over the main alternative theory. More results are expected soon.

Mike W.


(published on 12/22/2013)

Follow-Up #9: does 0%=100%

Q:
Something manifesting from nothing This is more of a statement than a question as I can only post questions, so I am compelled by the observation of the needlessly multiplied amount of entities culminating stacks information attempting to provide merit to one of the most quintessential philosophical inquiries consciousness has conceived. Allow me to provide appetizingly comprehensive food for thought: The Zero Theorem nothing is every thing 0% = 100% nothing is the absence of something therefore if there is nothing to take the absence of something then nothing becomes something. some would concede that you then have the Big Bang. So what do you make of this?
- Calm Elder Kiwi (age 17)
Groom Lake
A:

I can't make head nor tails of it.

Mike W.


(published on 06/18/2015)

Follow-Up #10: philosophy of nothing

Q:
Long time ago I've read from the internet (I don't know the link anymore) about number 0 (zero) in the other point of view of math. It said that the sum of all real numbers (without zero) which are all negative number and all positive numbers is zero. So zero symbol represents the infinity. If what the article said can be accepted, will it be more reasonable to say that "Nothing (zero) is everything" rather than "Nothing is something" ? Thank you.
- karma (age 53)
Denpasar Bali Indonesia
A:

What you read was empty word-spinning, with no content. The sum of all the real numbers has no defined value. Even the sum of all the integers has no defined value- it depends on what order you add them in.

Then the conclusion about whether or not "nothing is something" tell us nothing at all about what to expect to observe in the world. There no way to tell if word combinations like that stand for true or false sentences. they're meaningless.

Mike W. 


(published on 02/18/2017)

Follow-Up #11: 0$-->2$

Q:
"Nothing" (in a philosophy of nothing) is recognized as an empty space, vacuum or empty void. But all these things are, in fact, something (and this usually sounds like an empty meaningless play and mixture with words). But logically speaking there can be no perfect state of nothing that is not in fact something. An empty vacuum with no particles or constants at its core to construct or define it, is still something, an empty vacuum with no particles or constants at its core to construct or define it.In mathematics we use numbers to represent real world values. If I have no money (nothing), I have $0. But if I have $1, I have something. Or even $2 and $3 etc (which are all multiples of 1). That being said, from a perspective of a philosophy of nothing, could I use that and say nothing (represented by 0) is in fact something (represented by 1). That is, an equation of 0=1. And furthermore say 0+0=2?
- Tshepo (age 21)
Lobatse, Botswana
A:

It would be great if money worked that way, adding a few zeros to get something. Unfortunately it doesn't, and neither do other quantities like mass or charge.

Mike W.


(published on 02/20/2018)